Posted: 1:39 pm Thursday, May 8th, 2014

Fox renews ‘American Idol’ for 14th season, won’t say if it will be the last 

By Rodney Ho

Odds are slim all three judges are returning next  year. CREDIT; Fox

Odds are slim all three judges are returning next year. CREDIT; Fox

Fox confirmed Tuesday that “American Idol’ will be back in 2015 for a 14th season despite alarmingly poor ratings season 13.

Kevin Reilly, president of Fox, recently told Vulture that he isn’t sure if 2015 will be the final season – even if it should. He did say he might try to bring back the original three judges Simon Cowell, Paula Abdul and Randy Jackson.

As I noted yesterday, the odds of bringing back this year’s judge’s panel is slim, especially Jennifer Lopez, who has committed to an NBC drama in 2015. And she’s pricey.

(UPDATE: Well, maybe I”m wrong. TV Guide says they all may come back. I guess we’ll see.)

We are all wondering how a final season of “Idol” would look like but I’m sure it will involve bringing back a lot of former  “Idol’ contestants and judges and a lot of nostalgia. (But not necessarily bringing back the same old songs.)

Last night’s episode drew a dismal 7.8 million viewers and a 1.7 18-49 rating in the early ratings. That would be yet again a series low for a performance show. Now “Survivor,” an older show, is destroying “Idol” with 9.8 million viewers and a 2.4 18-49 rating last night.

Last year’s comparable top 4 performance show drew 11.26 million viewers and a 2.9 18-49 rating. That’s down 31 percent among total viewers and an even sharper 41 percent among 18-49 year olds year over year.

The year of Phillip Phillips? The top 4 performance show drew 16.46 million viewers and a 4.5/ 18-49 rating in 2012.

So over two years, the show has lost more than half its total viewers and a whopping 62 percent loss in 18-49 viewers.

54 comments
Highlander1
Highlander1

If Reilly were successful in getting Simon to come back it would only be because Simon's ego would lead Simon to believe he could single-handedly turn the ratings around. ...Then, halfway through the live shows when he sees that isn't happening, he'd go back into the auto-pilot mode he was in during his last season on Idol.

MercedesS
MercedesS

Thanks for Caleb interview, D.  Would have said it on new thread but having a hard time signing in there. 

JTesla
JTesla

I may be alone on this, but I'm not really all that interested in seeing the original judges come back.

Sam-A1
Sam-A1

Jen: I really liked Alexis too - tiny, pretty little blonde with short hair. She was a good singer.

I'm off in a few for the weekend, so y'all have a great one. Back Monday for 3 days.

Jenny11
Jenny11

And finally, as far as next season goes... I would LOVE to see the original 3 judges come back.  (Or, I'd be happy with Simon, Paula and Harry... I don't mind Harry's bluntness, because that was what I loved about him as a mentor.  He has very high expectations.)  

But as much as I like him, there would be something undeniably cool about having the original 3 back.  And I think they should return the show as much to its roots as they can.  No instruments... good theme nights... less insistence on "current" music.  

(But keep the limited voting.  That's done wonders this season... there's not a weak-voiced love object among our final 4! :-)

Jenny11
Jenny11

More catchup.  Negativo - I remember you from reading for many years before I jumped in the pool… always enjoyed your posts!  Don't know if we've ever chatted, but welcome back!  

I'm right with you on Jessica.  I think she sounds soooo much like Stevie Nicks.  I've been hoping she'll make the finals, but after last night, I'm worried.  :-(   If she sticks around, I really want to hear "The Chain", "Leather and Lace" and "Leaving Las Vegas".  

I'm also with you on Alex.  He's very good, but boring. "Elevator music" made me laugh!!!  You put your finger on what bores me about him!  :-)

Rodney - so does the new ruling on who can try out mean that Alexis Grace could come back?  She was SO robbed in her season.  She should have been on the tour AT MINIMUM.  But she went home in 11th, while that squawky weird caw-caw girl got to tour.  Robbed, I tell you….

Jenny11
Jenny11

Afternoon, all.  Just catching up on the last thread, but will post my replies over here instead....

JT - sorry, didn't see that you'd replied to me until just now!  I think you're right that Jessica will probably go… I'd personally prefer it be Alex, but I think Jess' time may have run out with her first two duds.  :-(  

And I'd buy music from her in a heartbeat.  I'd also buy music from Caleb.  I would probably never buy from Alex (unless I need a sleep-aid :-) , and Jena... maybe.  I'd have to hear it first.  

Sam - you might not have seen my review, but I basically said exactly what you said re: Caleb.  (Except I think my phrase was "on a higher plane than the others.") And "Maybe I'm Amazed" was wonderful.  

Woodpappy - wow, our reviews were almost identical!  You just put yours much more succinctly.  I tend to ramble.  :-)
G - Completely agree with you on Caleb and Jena.  You and I (and the girl from yesterday whose post stirred up the big fuss) may be the only ones on here who do like Jena!  But I have since the beginning, and I'll stick with that.  :-)  Though we're opposite on the other two.  I love Jessica, and Alex puts me to sleep. 

DoubleNaughtSpy
DoubleNaughtSpy

Season 10


Final Nielsen TV Rankings for the year:

Wednesday show:1st, avg 25.8 million viewers

Thursday show:2nd, avg 23.8 million viewers

#1 show, 18-49 demographic


Winner:Scotty McCreery



Season 11


Final Nielsen TV Rankings for the year:

Wednesday show: 2nd, avg 19.8 million viewers

Thursday show:avg 18.3 million viewers

#2 show, 18-49 demographic


Winner:Phillip Phillips





Season 12


Final Nielsen TV Rankings for the year:

Wednesday show:6th, avg 15 million viewers

Thursday show:8th, avg 14.6 million viewers


Winner:Candice Glover




DoubleNaughtSpy
DoubleNaughtSpy

Season 6


Final Nielsen TV Rankings for the year:

Tuesday show:1st, avg 30 million viewers

Wednesday show:2nd, avg 29.5 million viewers

#1 show, 18-49 demographic


Winner:Jordin Sparks


Season 7


Final Nielsen TV Rankings for the year:

Tuesday show:1st, avg 27.6 million viewers

Wednesday show:2nd, avg 26.8 million viewers

#1 show, 18-49 demographic


Winner:David Cook



Season 8


Final Nielsen TV Rankings for the year:

Tuesday show:2nd, avg 24.7 million viewers

Wednesday show:1st, avg 25.5 million voters

#1 show, 18-49 demographic


Winner:Kris Allen


Season 9


Final Nielsen TV Rankings for the year:

Tuesday show:1st, avg 22.9 million viewers

Wednesday show:2nd, avg 21.9 million viewers

#1 show, 18-49 demographic


Winner:Lee DeWyze

DoubleNaughtSpy
DoubleNaughtSpy

Since we're talking about the show possibly ending and the shrinking ratings I will share something you may find enjoyable.


I recently posted a lot of info about past seasons.  I did something else at the time and this seems to be the ideal time to post.  It shows how AI finished in the yearly Nielsens.  I'll start with Season 2.


Season 2


Final Nielsen TV Rankings for the year:

Tuesday show: 5th, avg 21.3 million viewers

Wednesday show: 3rd, avg 21.9 million viewers

#2 show, 18-49 demographic


Winner: Reuben Studdard



Season 3


Final Nielsen TV Rankings for the year:

Tuesday show: 1st, avg 25.7 million viewers

Wednesday show:avg 24.3 million viewers

#1 show, 18-49 demographic


Winner: The F word




Season 4


Final Nielsen TV Rankings for the year:

Tuesday show: 1st, avg 27.3 million viewers

Wednesday show:3rd, avg 26.1 million viewers

#1 show, 18-49 demographic


Winner:  Carrie Underwood



 

Season 5


Final Nielsen TV Rankings for the year:

Tuesday show:1st, ave 31.1 million viewers

Wednesday show:2nd, avg 30.1 million viewers

#1 show, 18-49 demographic


Winner:Taylor Hicks





MercedesS
MercedesS

I've been harping on this forever - television watching has changed and you can't expect a show to live up to numbers from five years ago. 

DarrylBrooks
DarrylBrooks

@Negativo  has a good idea. Since the only real change since the beginning is the judges, that is the problem. Simon was annoying, but he is a music producer. Having some guy that sings as a judge is useless.  The seasons with Tyler phoning it in is what dragged it down. Randy was good at comic relief and second banana, but isn't strong enough to carry the weight as the #1 seat. This year's panel is the best since Cowell left, but it's too little too late. I didn't watch for the last 1.5 seasons and am barely hanging on this season. 


Another issue that has surfaced in recent years is a lot of these people aren't nobody's from someplace, America. Many are already professional singers and actors. The fact that they aren't wildly popular doesn't matter. When it was Rocky Balboa winning the show, that was compelling. When it's someone leaving their full time band or the Broadway stage to 'audition' it's just TV.


Stick a fork in it. 

Sam-A1
Sam-A1

G: Think back - we all hated the 4-judge system. Lets bring back Paula and Simon and keep HCJR. I for one can do forever without Randy.  That said, I'd like for Harry to be a little less mean to the contestants - he's got a different kind of "mean" from Simon. Simon insulted them personally, where Harry insults their knowledge of musicality and performance, but he gets really harsh sometimes, as several of us have discussed here today with Jessica. A bit more kindness would be appreciated from that adorable face.

Negativo
Negativo

My suggestions to turn the tide:

• Replace judges with a panel of 4 record label executives, and use the "Shark Tank" model.

• The execs bid if interested on contestants, who in addition to performing must sell their vision of why they will become successful artists in the music biz.

• If no takers, the contestant is eliminated. Each exec will be assigned a certain fixed amount of $$ to spend on filling a roster of 5 artists.

• After the execs have completed their rosters, the artists will perform live and record iTunes singles. The iTunes sales of the single will be the sole determination of who is eliminated each week.

• The lowest selling artist per team will be eliminated from the show each week.

• The execs will be charged with promoting their artists. No judging will take place, just strategizing for maximum success.

G_
G_

I think that people are a bit burned out on these type of shows nowadays.  The Voice will still be around for a while due to star power, show format, and a wide spectrum of new artists.  They just need to improve the marketing of new artist after the show.....whether they win or not.  Maybe the tour will help.


Surprisingly, I think AGT sticks around a bit longer.  A show with novelty acts is an old concept that never dies. 


I would like to see the original judges return to Idol, with Keith as a fourth judge.  Simon's sobering comments are always good for ratings, and true most of the time.  I would move HCJ to mentor with Jimmy.  Love seeing JLO's fine frame on tv, but they can afford to ditch her. 

Woodpappy
Woodpappy

Maybe next year should be the last year and bring back some IDOL stars as the judges. 

Negativo
Negativo

Not sure what happened. I can login and see the comments again from my phone, but not the computer. So weird. Was I blocked upon my triumphant return? Lol

DeirdreC
DeirdreC

The ratings news is sad but not unexpected.  I hope a decision is made BEFORE Season 15 begins about whether or not it will be the last.  I think it probably should be but it makes me a little bit unhappy to say it.  I would hope they make the last season(whenever it will be) a very special one.  The Idol franchise deserves that.

JTesla
JTesla

Oh and for the record, "Maybe I'm amazed" best of the show last night. Didn't want to admit that, but I aim to be a forgive and forget kind of person.

JTesla
JTesla

Good for him. Thanks for sharing.

ComaToes
ComaToes

@DeirdreC     An apology in this type situation is nothing more than a "sorry I got exposed and looked bad in a circumstance that might keep me from winning AI"  non-credible act. The question is would he have said the same thing if he had already gotten kicked off?  I'm betting not !  Ulterior motives make an apology very easy.

Jenny11
Jenny11

@JTesla - To me, it would be cool because the show has strayed so far away from its roots.  (And because I always loved Paula and Simon.)  I think it'd be neat to see a "Retro Idol", so to speak.  :-)

Though I do like this season's panel... JLo's much improved, Harry's great, and Keith... well, I do wish Keith hadn't cut his hair.  He was my eye candy last year and now he looks like a bobblehead.  :-( 

Jenny11
Jenny11

@Sam-A1 - yep, she was really good.  Before the season, I had her, Adam and Danny Gokey as my top 3.  (Remember how we all thought Danny was going to be the big star of that season?)

And if you don't own Alexis' studio version of "Jolene" - google it and see if you can listen.  I still love it.  :-) 

Have a nice long weekend! 

MercedesS
MercedesS

@Jenny11 Lot of people have been robbed on Idol, from Adam L on down.  Siobhan, Hollie, JHud, many many others.

McCovey44
McCovey44

@Jenny11  Man!  I have been championing Jena for weeks on here and you can say "You and I (and the girl from yesterday whose post stirred up the big fuss) may be the only ones on here who do like Jena! to G?


I'm soooooo ignored. :)

MercedesS
MercedesS

@Negativo But isn't there already a Shark Tank (whatever that is, I've never seen it, but it sounds pretty awful)?  Idol is Idol and I for one want it to stay that way.

Negativo
Negativo

Cont...

A Final Four will compete in the finale. The Idol winner will be guaranteed a label contract.

wreckedpizza
wreckedpizza

@Woodpappy  Amen to that! Although whenever the final year is, it will be sad. FOX better come up with something killer to replace "Idol".

DeirdreC
DeirdreC

@Negativo  I tried to warn you about this format.  It messes with your head.

G_
G_

@DeirdreC I think the return of Simon Cowell would boost the ratings.  However, Simon vs. HCJ would be 10X as competitive as Simon vs. LA Reid.  Say what you want about Randy, but he fits on the judges panel.  Randy, Simon and Paula are a solid panel. 

Negativo
Negativo

Yeah, once a show falls below a certain threshold there's almost no coming back. I think Idol has taken that plunge. Only remote chance is for a radical format and personnel restructuring, and rebranding it Idol 2.0.

JTesla
JTesla

@Jenny11 The original judges aren't going to bring the magic back. That shipped sailed a long time ago. Idol grew up.

Jenny11
Jenny11

@MercedesS -  So true.  I know you and I agree that Adam was the worst robbery ever....

JTesla
JTesla

@Jenny11 She hasn't said, but she also hasn't watched much. As @G_ said... it's a pretty mundane season.

Jenny11
Jenny11

Hey, @JTesla , am I remembering correctly that your wife liked Keith last year too?  What does she think of the haircut?

Jenny11
Jenny11

@MercedesS  Nooooooooooooo!!!  the long hair looked so much better.  :-(

Jenny11
Jenny11

@MercedesS - From last season.  Remember, it was much longer, and shaggier last year?  He always looked so cute.  This year it's shorter and, I don't know, just doesn't suit him as well.  He's much less surfer-boy.

Jenny11
Jenny11

@DoubleNaughtSpy- Me, either.  He wasn't a bad singer, though... he had some good performances. It's just that Adam's level of talent was rare.  (IMO.)

I remember Kris had that one song out called "Live Like You Were Dying"... but it was kinda bland, and wasn't the REAL "Live Like You Were Dying" by Tim McGraw...  

"I went skydivin', Rocky Mountain climbin', I went four point seven seconds on a bull called Fu Manchu..."

Jenny11
Jenny11

@MercedesS (Adam, that is.  It dropped my post way down below yours that I was replying to.)  

But I haven't been THAT psyched waiting for a performance... ummm.... ever.  Not even during Carrie's season. 

Jenny11
Jenny11

@MercedesS - oh my gosh... I would be on pins and needles all day waiting to see him sing!  And during his season, I ALWAYS made sure I was at home to see it live.  

Jenny11
Jenny11

@MercedesS @DoubleNaughtSpy - Agreed on Hollie and the others you mentioned too!  I loved Siobhan.  Other notable robberies include Michael Johns, Melinda Doolittle... and way back in the day, LaToya London....

MercedesS
MercedesS

@Jenny11 @MercedesS Rightly so! When you think about it,every one of his songs was a spectacular production. Waiting for him to sing was exciting, 

MercedesS
MercedesS

@Jenny11 @MercedesS Yes. Sad.  However, he seems to have more of a career than the guy who won.  (I really forgot his name.)