Posted: 3:50 pm Monday, May 19th, 2014

‘American Idol’ briefs: Nigel Lythgoe can’t bear to watch ‘Idol’ anymore; Power 2; Top 100 ‘Idol’ songs of all time 

By Rodney Ho

Nigel Lythgoe, who ran "Idol' for many years, can't watch the show anymore. He is now focused on "So You Think You Can Dance," his baby from day one. CREDIT: Fox

Nigel Lythgoe, who ran “Idol’ for many years, can’t watch the show anymore. He is now focused on “So You Think You Can Dance,” his baby from day one. CREDIT: Fox

Nigel Lythgoe, promoting the 11th season of “So You Think You Can Dance” today in a phone press conference starting May 28, said he can’t bear to watch “American Idol” anymore since he was unceremoniously fired last year.

“To be frank,” he said to me, “it upsets me personally having left the show to watch it. I’m hugely supportive. I love the judges. I can honestly say I have not seen much of the talent. I wish it every success.”

I can’t blame him. It was his baby and it’s hard to watch something under those circumstances.

He did say his own “So You Think You Can Dance” show is in trouble since its ratings keep dropping, averaging fewer than 5 million viewers last year, the worst to date. He is hoping that he at least holds the ratings of last year, thinking in this day and age that this will be enough to garner a 12th season.

The show, which brings back Mary Murphy as his permanent co-judge, will continue with a rotating third judge. (On the first episode May 28, Wayne Brady in New Orleans and Jenna Elfman in Chicago are the guests.)

Inspired by the crews in Atlanta, he said the show will include dance crews, too, in a separate mini-competition hosted by part-time Atlantan Justin Bieber. “He’s a big fan of the show,” Lythgoe said.

The show will also go back to featuring one single winner instead of a male and female winner.

And he is still not a fan of not having a results show. He says it’s difficult to squeeze in an elimination into a performance show. “I don’t like it. I’ve never liked it,” he said. “But I totally understand it if they aren’t getting the viewers. Unfortunately, it does make sense.”

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AMERICAN IDOL XIII:  The Final 2: L-R: Caleb Johnson and Jena Irene.  CR: Michael Becker / FOX. Copyright 2014 / FOX Broadcasting.

AMERICAN IDOL XIII: The Final 2: L-R: Caleb Johnson and Jena Irene. CR: Michael Becker / FOX. Copyright 2014 / FOX Broadcasting.

We’re down to two so here is my rather brief Power ranking for tomorrow’s finale performance show.

1) Jena Irene. In a year we thought would be all about the guys, a woman is now favored. She has several factors going for her: her youth, her pliability, her versatility, her stage presence, her unique vocal stylings and her pop sensibility. All that makes her the likeliest winner and the most marketable, too.

2) Caleb Johnson. He has been a favorite to win for much of the competition but he has a major problem: he doesn’t feel modern. He is a throwback to the 1980s hair metal days or even the 1970s Meat Loaf days. It’s really his voice and his stylings that simply don’t jibe with what’s hot and current. Given that many voters are now well past the age where this matters, he will make it a close call and might even pull an upset. But his voice is not 100% and he appears doomed to runner-up status. (Not that folks like Adam Lambert or Clay Aiken have any reason to complain on that front.)

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Fred Bronson, Billboard chart guru and huge “Idol’ fan, compiled the 100 biggest “Idol’ songs based on Billboard chart performance alone.

Not surprisingly, Kelly Clarkson dominates the chart with 18 songs, six in the top 10.

Carrie Underwood only has one in the top 20 because most of her hits have been isolated to country. Her big cross-over song “Before He Cheats” came in No. 9.

Daughtry, Phillip Phillips and Jordin Sparks also were in the top 10.

Here is the top 20. See the entire top 100 here.

1. Since U Been Gone – Kelly Clarkson

2. Stronger – Kelly Clarkson

3. No Air – Jordin Sparks

4. Behind These Hazel Eyes – Kelly Clarkson

5. Breakaway – Kelly Clarkson

6. Home – Phillip Phillips

7. Because of You – Kelly Clarkson

8. My Life Would Suck Without You – Kelly Clarkson

9. Before He Cheats – Carrie Underwood

10. It’s Not Over – Daughtry

11. A Moment Like This – Kelly Clarkson

12. Tattoo – Jordin Sparks

13. Home – Daughtry

14. This is the Night – Clay Aiken

15. Sorry 2004 – Ruben Studdard

16. Miss Independent – Kelly Clarkson

17. Wait For You – Elliott Yamin

18. Inside  Your Heaven – Carrie Underwood

19. Already Gone – Kelly Clarkson

20. Walk Away – Kelly Clarkson

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Carrie Underwood dueted with Miranda Lambert with “Something Bad” last night on the Billboard Music Awards on ABC.  The raccoon makeup is awful but otherwise, it’s not bad.

53 comments
DeirdreC
DeirdreC

MK Nobliette has tweeted her fans that she will not be participating in tomorrow's finale due to illness but assures them that she will be ready for the tour.

Rickster_
Rickster_

Have a great evening, everyone!

DeirdreC
DeirdreC

We have the theme for each song the finalists will sing...not going to spoiler warning it because we don't have the songs yet;

1. Best Performance of the Season

2. Original Song(aka Coronation Songs that have already been released on itunes)

3. Simon Fuller's Choice.

I don't recall if Simon Fuller has ever chosen before.  I always thought Producers Choice meant Nigel chose

Rickster_
Rickster_

Is it just me? Or does Caleb bear a striking resemblance to to Biff Tannen from "Back To The Future?"

Rickster_
Rickster_

Here's a long-in-coming "American Idol Auditions We Wish We'd Have Seen" - Norman Greenbaum ("Spirit in the Sky")


Randy: "Dude... you've got a Jewish last name... but you're singing about Jesus? 'Sup wi dat?"


Paula: "I loved your version of "I'm telling you I'm not going. Oh... wait... that was Norman Gentle."


Simon: "Look.. its a nice song... but you've got about as much of a chance of winning as you do having a second hit."

Rickster_
Rickster_

I have to agree with Nigel - I can't bear to watch it any more either. (But I do have to disagree with Nigel in that I've never watched SYTYCD.)

MoSch
MoSch

I did not like that motion picture either but that Sissy Spacek girl did redeem her herself later in that picture about the country western singer and I mean the one who got hooked on pills and whose husband ran around on her and not that other one.

DoubleNaughtSpy
DoubleNaughtSpy

I must admit, though, that the picture of Carrie is dreadful.


I also got this sharp pain in my neck when I saw Taylor Hicks and the "F" word.

Jenny11
Jenny11

OK, weird.... is it just me, or is the blog acting strange today??  I keep getting that blank white WordPress screen, and I made a comment earlier that did show up, but is now missing.  (It was just thanking @DeirdreC for the Reality Check Summary and agreeing with her and @Idolfan that I prefer the written word over a video too.   Oh well.  Maybe this comment will stick.) 

Jenny11
Jenny11

@RodneyHo - one thought about your power rankings with Jena winning.... don't forget one big factor:  Caleb is from the South.  Or at least the broad southern area that seems to be hard to beat on Idol.  (I know they counted both Carrie and Chris Allen as "southern" winners, though I think they were reaching a bit with Arkansas and especially Oklahoma.)  But anyway.  I do wonder if that'll factor in.  

My take.... I think Caleb should win based on talent.  I don't know if he WILL.... although as I said below, "relevance" isn't everything.  

But I've liked Jena all along too, and though I'd personally have preferred Jessica in the final with Caleb, Jena's still a worthy opponent.  I've never understood all the bashing she takes here.  

It'll be a good final two.... I just hope the song choices are good.... 

Jenny11
Jenny11

@Negativo- I so agree with you that major changes were needed for next year.  (I'd have done the changes slightly differently than you would have... I'd have brought back the original judges, eliminated instruments, and brought back old-style mentors and theme nights... but overall, it's a shame that they're not seeming to want to shake it up.)

Unless they really surprise us, I think next year I'll probably switch to The Voice.  I haven't watched it regularly this year (it, plus Idol, plus my other shows adds up to more hours of DVR recordings than I can possibly watch...) but I have kept up a little bit, and from what I've seen, the talent is GREAT, and the song choices are much better.  

In my eyes, Idol's made a mistake this year with its insistence on only using "relevant" music.  "Relevance" is not everything, and I'm not very interested in watching a show that's mostly about current teenage trending music.  :-( 

G_
G_

Roho, thanks for providing Underwood and Lambert's video "Something Bad".  I'm not a fan of country music, but I thoroughly enjoyed that song and performance.  Where's JLO's video?  She received an Icon award and she was a treat on stage too.  

G_
G_

In terms of Nigel featuring more on dance crews, I think it's great.  But he's a bit late in the game.  America's Best Dance Crew (ABDC) was a success some time ago, for about 6 seasons worth.  That has to be one of Randy Jackson's best contributions.  


SYTYCD isn't any different from any other reality competition show.  The decline in viewers is bigger than the show itself.  These competition shows make people smarter viewers, integrates social media, and it's interactive TV.   Bottom line........reality competition shows have run their course.  Folks need a break.  Something new or nothing at all.  

Negativo
Negativo

So excited for tonight's Idol finale. By excited, I mean so glad this season is coming to an end. Really did not like the show this year, or last year for that matter, but at least this year I did find an artist who I will follow and be a fan of post-Idol (Jess Meuse). That makes it worthwhile, I guess.


Unfortunately, next year there appears to be no improvements. Just more of the same producer manipulations, the same celebrity panel of narcissist stooges, the same phony smile on Ryan's face and the same Randy the Clown act. 


Mercifully, at least, we get results show cutbacks, which are needed when people are no longer interested enough to tune in more than once a week (if that).


What ABC is planning with their new interactive singing show, Rising Star, will serve as yet another major blow to the old gray mare who ain't what she used to be. I would have flipped the Idol entirely, with MAYBE the exception of Ryan. Total format shift, which would include abolishing judges altogether in favor of major label execs (like Jimmy Iovine), who would evaluate talent, select their finalists, and then promote their contestants who would compete live for a major record deal based exclusively on America's votes and iTunes purchases.


Now THAT could be a game changer. Otherwise, like Nigel says...it's just become almost too painful to watch the one-time King's final throws. Like watching Elvis sitting on the can eating his peanut butter & bacon sandwich and a handful of prescription meds.



Negativo
Negativo

Morning, peeps. Looks like the blogmonster ate my avitar.

MoSch
MoSch

For a minute there I thought my wife had found her way on to the Idol blog but I can still her snoring.

DeirdreC
DeirdreC

Again, a reminder...IDOL IS ON TONIGHT!!!!!!!!

Sorry, the bold with capital letters was for those who just skim over my posts.  

Negativo
Negativo

Not sure if it's been mentioned, but Phillip's new album Behind The Light was released today. I strongly recommend getting it, people. 15 songs, and ALL are really strong. Dude is brilliant. It's charted in the iTunes Top 10 all day, and currently sits at #6 overall, #1 in pop.

RK_
RK_

And not one David in the top 20.

MercedesS
MercedesS

Only two guys in the top ten, and six guys out of top twenty ... so mych for WGWGs

MercedesS
MercedesS

@Rickster_ Caleb bears a striking resemblance to a lot of things/.people. What he needs to be: an original.

DoubleNaughtSpy
DoubleNaughtSpy

@Rickster_


Believe it or not, Norman Greenbaum actually had a 2nd modest hit with the song "Canned Ham".  Real corny.  It came out around 1970 or 71

MercedesS
MercedesS

@Jenny11 I got that idiot wordpress screen many times yesterday.  About as many times as I had political robocalls.  Thank goodness the election is today. 

Jenny11
Jenny11

Ooooookay.... now my missing comment is back....  (Insert Twilight Zone music here.) 

RodneyHo
RodneyHo moderator

@Jenny11 @RodneyHoThe Southern factor may or may not matter now. It's hard to say when you lose so many viewers. Who knows where the fans are that are left? Plus, the way they've changed voting may impact totals, too.

MoSch
MoSch

@Woodpappy  One of those retrospectives should be in order maybe of that Lopez girls greatest hits so they can keep the camera on her the whole time instead of only mostly the whole time while the kids are singing their hearts out to whatever garbage she has produced but do not get me started please.

MercedesS
MercedesS

@Negativo "Major label execs" would kill the show completely.  They would have to be photogenic, not older than 45, and have a good speaking voice.   People want to see known faces as "judges".

GeoffCoe
GeoffCoe

@DeirdreC The switch to accommodate the last week of the "broadcast year" (who knew, besides you media mavens?) makes me nuts. Three weeks ago,  I set up an evening appointment with a client for tonight just so I wouldn't miss the final two. So much for planning ahead. . .   :-(   
You blogsters have fun tonight!

Idolfan
Idolfan

@DeirdreC  I hate having to watch a video to view things on the internet. I would much rather just read a transcript! Who do they pick? 

MercedesS
MercedesS

@Negativo Thanks for reminder, Neg! I hear the new one several times a day on car radio.

RodneyHo
RodneyHo moderator

@Jenny11 The blog has been unstable for weeks. I don't know why. I'm so sorry.

MoSch
MoSch

@DeirdreC  Thank you Deirdre you are a sweetheart but do not worry so much because it has to happen sooner or later.

DeirdreC
DeirdreC

@Idolfan @DeirdreC  Adding that the reason I watch these videos with Michael and Melinda(and I also hate it when you click on something and get a video instead of a transcript) is that this conversation between the two of them is funny and educational.  They are so interesting when you add the nuances of their expression and tone and they are never boring.  Give it a shot just once to see what I mean.  

DeirdreC
DeirdreC

@Idolfan @DeirdreC  Jena.  They really liked her Creep last week.  They said that Alex had the best night over all, highly praising his version of Stay in particular.  They make fun of Idol for doing the whole "selfie" thing and wonder if there may have been a better way to fill time(like with the 30 or so terrific singers from Idol's past.)  They mock the whole doctor thing with Caleb and actually compare it to the doctor thing with Lauren Alaina in which the doc says basically the same thing.

Jenny11
Jenny11

@RodneyHo - No worries!  It's not your fault!  I seem to be one of the lucky ones... this doesn't happen to me often, though I read of others having lots of problems.  :-)

MoSch
MoSch

@RodneyHo @Jenny11  If it is unstable you want then look no further than my wifes second cousin Miriam just do not look too long.