Posted: 10:56 pm Wednesday, August 13th, 2014

‘American Idol’ bits: Caleb Johnson debut numbers, Kelli Glover on ‘AGT,’ Kris Allen 

By Rodney Ho

Testify caleb johnsonSeason 13 winner Caleb Johnson’s debut album “Testify” dropped yesterday and HitsDailyDouble projects based on first-day sales that he will sell a mere 9,000 to 11,000 copies. That’s even worse than Candice Glover‘s 19,000 last year.

It would officially be the worst-selling debut of any “Idol” winner to date. Not surprising given how the show has disappeared off the pop culture radar screen and the fact album sales continue to slip away with each subsequent year.

His album is coming out sooner than any other winner in history, less than three months after the finale. Most winner albums debut in the fall.  He wrote or co-wrote eight of the songs, which he recorded before the “Idol” tour started in June. The single will be “Only One,” not “Fighting Gravity,” which he has been singing on tour.

You can read about how it was done here, via USA Today.

“We were really trying to push it and not have every song be a riff-rock song,” he told USA Today. “Every song would incorporate those elements but show different flavors. And not just that, but show my talent as a writer, too.”

Here’s the past first-week sales.

Kelly Clarkson – Thankful – April 15 2003 –  #1 – 297K
Ruben Studdard – Soulful – December 3 2003 – #1 – 417K
Fantasia Barrino – Free Yourself – November 23 2004 – #8 – 240K
Carrie Underwood – Some Hearts – November 15 2005 – #2 – 315K
Taylor Hicks – Taylor Hicks – December 12 2006 – #2 – 298K
Jordin Sparks – Jordin Sparks – November 20 2007 – #10 – 119K
David Cook – David Cook – November 18 2008 – #3 – 280K
Kris Allen – Kris Allen – November 17 2009 – #11 – 80K
Lee DeWyze – Live it Up – November 16 2010 – #19 – 39K
Scotty McCreery – Clear as Day – October 4 2011 – #1 – 197K
Phillip Phillips – TWFTSOTM – November 19 2012- #4 – 169K
Candice Glover – Music Speaks – February 18 2014 – #14 – 19K

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If you have a really good memory of season one of “American Idol,” you may remember a semifinalist Kelli Glover who fell just short of making the top 10. She also fell just short of the quarterfinals of “America’s Got Talent” in 2009. This year, she made it to the quarterfinals and will perform next week in the final quarterfinal round.

Here she is from 2002 during the top 20 singing “How Am I Supposed To Love You.” She was pretty good but overdid the runs and sounded a little breathy at points.

A dozen years later, she has straight hair and gets praise from the “AGT” judges. They do a back story with her but conveniently omit her “Idol’ time. “I feel like this is my last shot,” she said.  She decides to go for a well-worn “Idol” song, Whitney Houston‘s “I Have Nothing.” She has matured. She has more control over her instrument than she did in 2002. It’s a top-notch audition. “You’re absolutely incredible,” Mel B said. “Amazing,” Howie said. “You’re just a dream.”

“You have a superb voice,” Howard said.

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horizons kris allenSeason 8 winner Kris Allen has his third album coming out next week: “Horizons.” This time, it’s an independent release, which he said naturally means more work for him but also more ownership.

Read more about it in Billboard:

The Aug. 12 release of Horizons promises to be a fulfilling moment for a man who survived a car crash last year. During the head-on collision, Allen’s wrist was broken and as he recovered, he had to re-learn the way he approached making music. The result can be heard throughout Horizons, particularly in his new finger-picking style of guitar playing, which is prominent in the final mixes.

“I’ve been playing with my fingers a lot more because of my wrist,” he tells The Hollywood Reporter. “It’s a different way to play and some of those songs  were written when my hand was in a cast so all I had was my fingers. I think it made me a bit more melodic than just strumming a bunch of chords.”

 

86 comments
Sam-A1
Sam-A1

new thread just put up - yay, back to front page.

D: I didn't hear Cochise commit a Volm ship for the 'trip'. Sounded like they were going to "beam up" from that light thingy in the ground. See you on the new page.

Sam-A1
Sam-A1

That trip is ridiculousness! vehicle, astronaut suits, training, getting back - ??????? That didn't 'jump the shark', that jumped on its back, swam the shark to shore and invited it to dinner! I do not believe our tiny planet holds the only life in the universe, so I can buy a lot of it, but this is stupid, to me anyway!

DeirdreC
DeirdreC

Sam, re FS...I watched but not sure what you are talking about.  Their next "trip".  That doesn't seem any more farfetched that the rest of the show.  

Woodpappy
Woodpappy

Good morning folks.  Rickster, saw that Josh is going to get the help he needs.  Hope it works out for him and his family. 

Sam-A1
Sam-A1

D:  Good to hear re the pool. Is Maggie doing well?

Have you watched "FS" yet? OMG! I'll say little, until I know you've seen it, but wowsa they have gone too far! I'm hoping the dialogue from Tom I heard is not real - that I dozed off and had a bad dream!

DeirdreC
DeirdreC

Morning!

They were going to pour the concrete for my new pool deck this morning but Mother Nature had different ideas.  BTW, the new company is doing an excellent job.

Sam-A1
Sam-A1

S l   o   w   day!

Sam-A1
Sam-A1

Not sure if anyone here cares, but Jen Hud is on TODAY tomorrow for concert.

DeirdreC
DeirdreC

There are rumors floating around that Carrie is the halftime performer for the next Superbowl.

G_
G_

hhhmmm.................


I notice a correlation between Caleb and Candice.  Although both are very strong vocalist, their promotion and sales are abysmal.  But if you look at the market, what do artist look like nowadays?  They are thin, and the past Idols winners are NOT.  I'm not saying this to be mean, but this seems to be the only valid reason I can think of.  


Candice could have done a better job on the style of songs on her album, but it was a respectable effort. Even JHud has shed plenty of pounds, to where she looks like a different person.  I didn't think she had to shred, but it seem's her opportunities are plentiful.  


In a nutshell, could Idol winners appearance have a lot to do with sales?  

Sam-A1
Sam-A1

Well, once again, our Oldies station has been taken away, and for yet another abysmal tired old country station, as if there weren't enough of them already! And the latest Oldies was a really good one, pulling out lots of rarely heard recordings! How long will we have to wait this time before someone recognizes the need and puts up another one? Guess I'll have to polish up my CD's.

DeirdreC
DeirdreC

Morning!

So David Cook has kinda challenged Caleb Johnson to a duel.  Apparently Caleb has claimed that Cookie isn't a "real" rocker, that he's more pop rock because he doesn't do stuff from Led Zeppelin or Rush.  

I guess if you only know David from Idol you would believe that.  I know I did.  However, it seems that David's concerts are riddled with Zeppelin music.

I will say that Caleb was the first Idol winner who stuck close to his rocker roots through the whole show.

David, following the constraints of the theme shows(Broadway, Dolly Parton)was not able to display his rock talents as often on Idol as he may have wished.  

So the argument is tricky.  David is a rocker now but didn't often displayed his rocker talents on Idol.  Caleb had themes open enough to allow him to stick with rock almost the entire season.

I think Caleb just stuck his foot in his mouth again.  ;-)

Rickster_
Rickster_

Have a good weekend everyone.

Rickster_
Rickster_

It'll be interesting to see how the critics review the yet-to-be released movies (4 I think) that Robin Williams had finished prior to his death. With him having Parkinson's, it seems he was working hard and banking the money while he could until he couldn't any more.

Rickster_
Rickster_

The trailer for "The Giver" gives me the creeps.

DeirdreC
DeirdreC

Mercedes!!!!  How long has it been since you have been able to write 4 whole reviews???  Did you sneak onto the blog behind the blog-gremlin's back?  

How refreshing and gratifying to have your reviews back...and in English rather than blog-speak.

Sam-A1
Sam-A1

Well, no one else has said it, so TGIF!

MercedesS
MercedesS

How do I explain "The Extendables" on this list? I mean the "Expandables"?  Oh, you know what I mean.  I just wanted to see how Mel Gibson was holding up.  Actually, I wanted to see how all these actors TOO OLD for this kind of action spectacle were holding up.  They're doing fine.  Mel is lined and lithe, Sly and Dolph still have their muscles; all three have aged with "grace".  Not so much Arnold; he's done something to his face and now has Kenny Rogers' eyes. Good to see Antonio and Wesley!


Storyline, dialogue and character are of no importance in this movie.


MercedesS
MercedesS

A ten-year old niece made me read "The Giver" and so I was very impressed with the way the film adaptation jacked up some of the elements (hero grows from 12 to 17; his bold leap of faith is made more exciting) and dropped others (enumerations of "1984"-like dumbings-down of the society in question).  Meryl Streep is evil uber-priestess who runs a futuristic land where everything bad has been banished - but also everything good.  For some reason, Meryl and her gang have decided that a record has to be kept of how things used to be, and kept in the head of one man, the "Giver" (Jeff Bridges), who in turn has to hand down his records to a young disciple, the "Receiver" (Brenton Thwaites).


The former Mrs. Tom Cruise is very good as the Receiver's by-the-book fake mom, and Eric Northman from "True Blood" both revolting and sweet as the boy's fake dad.


The book was written 20 years ago, and without it there would be no "Hunger Games" or "Divergents".

MercedesS
MercedesS

In "Land Ho!" two retired men who became friends when they married two sisters have a "different" vacation in Iceland. One of them was recently dumped by wife number two, the other has been forced to retire. By exposing themselves to the wonders of that fascinating country (I've been there!) they both decide to give life a second chance. 

MercedesS
MercedesS

"Calvary" ought to earn Brendan Gleeson several acting nominations.  He plays a Catholic Irish priest who got his calling late (he was married and has a daughter).  When the movie starts, a man, unseen to the audience, sits at the confessional and promises to kill this Father Lavelle for sins the Catholic church committed against him when he was a child.  The week that follows is one tragedy after another for this really good and excellent priest.  Will his faith hold?  Excellent supporting cast: Chris O'Dowd, Kelly Reilly, and a well-known guy you'll recognize from "Game of Thrones".

MercedesS
MercedesS

Of the many movies opening in Atlanta today, I enjoyed these four for VARIOUS reasons: "Calvary", "Land Ho!", "The Giver" and "The Expendables 3".  Three of them are guy flicks, and one has been castigated by critics for coming late to the young adult dystopian party. 

DeirdreC
DeirdreC

All that being said, lots of women have based their entire careers on sex appeal.  It's most obvious in the entertainment industry but it is in almost every sector.  And there's nothing wrong with that.  We all use the talents we have to move forward in life.  

This past season, JLo stepped it up.  Her performance on the results show was mediocre but appropriate for the show.  Her critiques of the singers were usually quite good and I don't think we can thank Harry and Keith for that as much as JLo herself paying attention the the criticism of her previous judging.

As for her favoritism, for me, that is no big deal.  They are not judges in a court of law but on a talent show where what's good and what's bad should be based on both objective and subjective opinions.  

Question:  some of us have been very snarky about Randy, Simon and Stephen Tyler.  Does the fact that they are male interfere too much with your "gender breakdown" theory?

Sam-A1
Sam-A1

Now, Duck: We women are just a capable as guys in recognizing a 'sexy' woman. I just think our view of sexy is totally different. An overage of butts and bazooms hanging out is not really 'sexy' - more 'sleazy'. A girl, or guy for that matter, in a great pair of well fitting jeans and an oversized white shirt with rolled up sleeves. and hair tousled a bit - I find that sexy (especially on a good looking guy!). Lauren Bacall in her first couple of "Bogie" movies - sexy, especially with that smoky voice and the hair falling over one eye.

DeirdreC
DeirdreC

Morning!

So duck.......hmmmm, where to begin?  Let's start with ""Pretty" can play well in a female dominated zone but "sexy" usually does not.  It is nice that you use a qualifying word like "usually" to prevent anyone from thinking that you might be objectifying all women as intolerant of another woman's sex appeal. 

Personally, I think JLo is gorgeous.  She has definitely earned the most beautiful woman title.  BTW, lots of ordinary women are gorgeous, too but don't have the means or the entourage or the photo-shop to show it off.

"the opinions seem to take on an edge when her name comes up in these parts." You might be wondering why that is the case.  You attribute it to her sex appeal putting us(the women on this blog)off.  I think it has more to do with her first stint as a judge on AI.  Sitting between S. Tyler and Randy, JLo became just another blob of unenlightened but very well paid flesh.  She contributed NOTHING to the show.  She pouted when one of her favorites was in the bottom 3 and practically cheered when someone she didn't like was eliminated.  

My biggest objection that season was her totally inappropriate performance during a results show.  Her costume, her dance moves, her lyrics all were out of line on what has always been a family show.  

That performance solidified one belief that I have about her; her entire career is based on her sex appeal rather than her talent.  She is a moderately good dancer, a somewhat mediocre singer and actress.

DeirdreC
DeirdreC

@Sam-A1 Maybe they don't have to leave the alien ship to destroy the power source.

DeirdreC
DeirdreC

@Sam-A1 Maggie is fine.  she's doing about as well as you can expect a dog to be doing considering her age and her stupidity.

DeirdreC
DeirdreC

@Sam-A1 You've made me very curious.  I will watch it this afternoon.

Rickster_
Rickster_

@G_ The only people who would be surprised that Candice's and Caleb's sales would be abysmal were the ones who weren't paying attention during the season. (Myself excluded, of course.) 


Candice has a great voice, but sings in a genre' (don't you love that word?) that doesn't sell well. I'd be surprised if Kree Harrison didn't outsell her.


Caleb is trying to be the next Meatloaf, who had one big hit album with a couple of successful songs but hasn't done much else in decades.



JTesla
JTesla

@G_ I'm going with "all of the above".

I'm having a hard time thinking of an current ugly female popular singer. Yet at the same time, there are other factors at play against Caleb and Candice.

DeirdreC
DeirdreC

@G_ Another valid reason: sometimes a song clicks and sometimes it doesn't.  An artist can be promoted non-stop but without a song that grabs attention, they won't go anywhere.  

Philx2 got incredibly lucky being handed what has to be one of the best coronation songs ever written.  He's got a successful second album out because people other than Idol fans know who he is.  He clicked because of the music.

Carrie clicked because Nashville got behind her.

Kelly clicked because she separated herself from Idol early and put out a second album that was more in line with the kind of singer she is.

Talent is all well and good but the public has to have some reason to take note because there is lots of talent out there.

DeirdreC
DeirdreC

@G_ The "only valid reason"?  How about the fact that both Candice and Caleb sing styles that are not particularly popular today.  I loved Candice but her style of R&B just isn't very popular today.  Caleb's brand of rock & roll belongs somewhere in the mid 80's.  

At the same time, very few "kids" watch the show now.  That's also a valid reason why they aren't selling albums.  The fan base for each winner is much smaller than it used to be.  No one else even knows or cares who they are.

DeirdreC
DeirdreC

@Sam-A1 And as difficult as it is to believe, the term "oldies" now includes songs from the 80's and 90's.

DeirdreC
DeirdreC

@Sam-A1 There's another oldies station that comes out of Thomaston Ga.  88.9fm but you are probably too far up north to get it.

JTesla
JTesla

@Rickster_ May be down to only 3, it doesn't look like he got the voice work don for the animated film.

JTesla
JTesla

@MercedesS You enjoyed "The Expendables 3"? Hmm I'd written that one off, I may need to re-think that.

duckpop22
duckpop22

@DeirdreC I have seen the criticisms of Tyler, Minaj, Jackson et al. But the criticism is (almost) always about how they treated the contestants or how they didn't treat one of our favorites well. I never read about their appearance being fair game. It seems to me that there is an edge here about J-Lo. 


Remember this thread when someone calls her Jstankho next season. Who else has ever had to endure something like that?

JTesla
JTesla

@DeirdreC That first season finale with her was also the first time that I remember an act performing without an Idol contestant. Perhaps that was a decision of the producers, but either way it left me with a poor view of Jennifer Lopez.

G_
G_

@JTesla


Yeah, I didn't think about all of the other factors.  But I think about all of the current R&B/Pop female artists, and they pretty much all fit a pattern.  The look is the same, the sound, production, and its extremely cookie-cutter.  Anything outside of the mold doesn't get airplay.  


In terms of the content of Candice' music, I was disappointed.  It wasn't hip, it wasn't sultry, it just............wasn't.  Although the vocals were good, it just wasn't enough.  Her production team, A&R, management, etc. was not top tier.  She was doomed before she even started.

Sam-A1
Sam-A1

@DeirdreC @Sam-A1 The just demised station stuck with late 50's, 60's and a bit of 70's - it was really good. I will try to find that one, but with all the garbage on the air in the ATL, not expecting much from my search. Luckily, Target recently came out with CD's of "greatest hits" just loaded with lots of songs, and cheap, under $10. I have bought Neil Diamond, BeeGee's, Janis Joplin - will have to go back and pick up some more, I guess.

DeirdreC
DeirdreC

@duckpop22 @DeirdreC Who else has ever had to endure something like that?  Most celebrities on a daily basis.  One of my favorites, Kat McPhee, was referred to as a sl*t on another blog just the other day.

My objection was based on an entire group of blog ladies being chastised for the actions of a few. Just a note here: I'm pretty sure that the first time "Jstankho"(and I agree it is an ugly term) was used on this blog, it came from a guy.

I'm sure you agree that we are all entitled to our opinions whether those opinions are based on fact or a vague "icky" feeling whenever we see a certain celebrity. Sometimes those opinions are stated in a snarky or even rude way. And yes, when someone says something really nasty about one of my favorites, it grates on my nerves.  But this is a blog with people who have varying opinions to which they are entitled whether I like that opinion or not.  

DeirdreC
DeirdreC

@duckpop22 And as you have probably already noticed, I will argue with people about their opinions endlessly.  To me, that's part of the fun.  However, I know that it makes some people uncomfortable.  

duckpop22
duckpop22

@DeirdreC @duckpop22 It doesn't make me uncomfortable because I believe that you have a good heart. I spent 22 years in the public eye (medium sized fish in a small pond) and I know what it is like to be called names by anonymous folks. That's why, even when I feel strongly about one of the contestants, I try to keep the things I say above the belt.


JstankHo has always made me cringe.

DeirdreC
DeirdreC

@MercedesS @missnadine @JTesla @DeirdreC He didn't judge.  He performed during the finale(can't remember which season, k&cf??? do you know)  The producers weren't even sure when he would show up.  Or IF he would show up.  He did, about halfway through the show and was put on the stage almost immediately then left again before the show ended.  What a tool!

DeirdreC
DeirdreC

@duckpop22 @DeirdreC Thanks, although there may be some people who would disagree on the "good heart" thing.  And I'm not very fond of that particular nickname for JLo either.